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the uncertainty, consumers are feeling pretty good and the word out of washington today, is a lot of trying to work together. >> well, gary b, actually, i mean, do you know what it means if we fall off the fiscal cliff for you? i don't know, does anybody know? and is that uncertainty that gary k was talking about really the key here? >> i'll go beyond the uncertainty that gary k said. i think it's doom and gloom. brenda, if you walked outside the studio and grabbed ten people off the street, all ten of them, if you ask what does the fiscal cliff really mean? they go, i don't know, but it sounds bad. this fiscal cliff sounds bad, it doesn't sound like a good thing and brenda, when you hear this day after dayfter day, i think it starts to weigh on consumers out there. it sounds gloomy, it sounds terrible, and when people feel terrible, this is more perception in psychology than anything else, they don't spend as much. i wish i could be as optimistic as susan, when i talk to the the average person out there andncluding myself, everyone is feeling blah. >> brenda: you're not average, gary. tobi
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